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Old 05-Jun-2011, 16:17   #1
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Not argued Ron.. debated ... and that paragraph was not aimed at any particular person. My point is surely you should keep what you earn.
Put it another way:
Tom Dick and Harry all work with Tom making sure he turns up everyday even if feeling a bit rough. He keeps his bike as reliable as possible and works to the best of his ability, but gets 14 days pay for 16 days work?
Dick takes a couple of sickies or forgets to set the alarm for 2 days and gets the same pay as Tom!
Harry didn't remember to put petrol in his bike one day and then on another day he fell off on the way to work but also got the same pay as Tom... Is that right?
I'm not sure the analogy has any relevance. If we flip it and say they all have 2 days holiday, but Tom choses not to take them, what does that say about them? The only important thing is that we race in a series with a set of rules. We can only race to those rules. I don't think we should drop them, but can see how (in an amateur series) there is place for such a rule. Myself, Phil, Kev and Jimbo have all used the rule for various reasons.... and I am not quite as callous to suggest that in some cases that is the way the cookie crumbles... If we agree or not, I think the rule has a place. The way people should look at it if they have not been forced to miss races is a way of having "spare" races to improve some of their not so good results.
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I'm not sure the analogy has any relevance. If we flip it and say they all have 2 days holiday, but Tom choses not to take them, what does that say about them?


The only important thing is that we race in a series with a set of rules. We can only race to those rules. I don't think we should drop them, but can see how (in an amateur series) there is place for such a rule. Myself, Phil, Kev and Jimbo have all used the rule for various reasons.... and I am not quite as callous to suggest that in some cases that is the way the cookie crumbles... If we agree or not, I think the rule has a place. The way people should look at it if they have not been forced to miss races is a way of having "spare" races to improve some of their not so good results.

That Tom should earn 2 more days pay than the others
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That Tom should earn 2 more days pay than the others
If that is in his contract.... If not, Tom is an idiot!
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If that is in his contract.... If not, Tom is an idiot!

Yes it is, he entered and was contracted for a 16 Day Project, like all the others.
They were allowed to take 2 days holiday without pay if needed/wanted... Tom preferred to take the pay!
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Yes it is, he entered and was contracted for a 16 Day Project, like all the others.
They were allowed to take 2 days holiday without pay if needed/wanted... Tom preferred to take the pay!
The difference is that our DSC contract doesnt have the option you introduced to suit your argument. Also, Does that mean Dick and Harry have to forego their holidays just because it suited Tom?
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Ok, Le mans start then....
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Old 05-Jun-2011, 17:54   #7
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I just figured you'd had a few beers before posting phil

All races should be point scoring; no dropping. Simple. Too late this year but has to be something for next year....
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Ok, Le mans start then....

PMSL now that would be interesting

"All races should be point scoring; no dropping. Simple. Too late this year but has to be something for next year"....

Totally agree Paul

"Simple fact is that every past champion would have been, regardless of dropping points. Phil is leading this years championship regardless of if we drop results... I can't see it makes a difference either way"
That's because you have dropped 3 Ron, whereas in other cases(read mine) I would only be 3 points behind Phil and not 25!!



"At this current juncture Alan would drop 22 points. I have 2 DNF's so I drop zero points, ok I never scored any, but could have raced and still scored zero"
That about sums up the point I was making Phil

"But lets stay with the tyres, they are ace".
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The difference is that our DSC contract doesnt have the option you introduced to suit your argument. Also, Does that mean Dick and Harry have to forego their holidays just because it suited Tom?

No our contract doesn't have options but any contract should reward the worker for all work done, so the DSC contract is flawed imho.

Dick and Harry can take their unpaid holiday if they want to but why should Tom not get paid for what he has earnt?

Anyway, it is what it is so
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