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[Gbyte666]

Originally Posted by Spjallen

Forcast is rain!

Wets still on my 1C from Anglesey

Still slower than the A & B bikes out there in the wet but I dont mind it at all now on Wets.

Craig

[Spjallen]

Some people were asking about if you need warmers on wets. Well wet tyres operate best around 40 degrees. If you can't regulate your warmers to that (most tyre warmers are set to eighty) then you are heating the tyres up too much. You would be able to feel the difference in grip as the extra and unrequired heat dissipates from the tyre and they settle around the operating temp - 40 degrees - in the first few laps. This change in grip level can fool you into thinking you have more than you do and again as the temp drops you won't be able to do what you could initally when they came off the warmers.
In a nutshell, yes you do, but they will hear up very quickly without.

[brummydave]

i personally really dont think wets is our answer,maybe race control could be more aware of our tyre abilities in extreme conditions .Its not a blame thing,and like miles says and dallas does its your option and your right hand.

[Ghost]

Originally Posted by brummydave

i personally really dont think wets is our answer,maybe race control could be more aware of our tyre abilities in extreme conditions .Its not a blame thing,and like miles says and dallas does its your option and your right hand.

+1 to that BD, I would think someone from Dunlop also could contribute to this by saying what is or isn't reasonable to race in.

[Spjallen]

Just stick with the series how it is. Listen the the experienced DD riders like Kev and Ghost. Miles and the Pieman have it spot on.

[skidlids]

I thought Miles post was a good take on the situation

I thought allowing people to drop rounds was a good way of allowing them to opt out or pull out of some wet races, but from last years rider meeting and form filling that wasn't wanted for this season.

Gusting winds as we had at Anglesey doesn't help in the wet especially if you have flat sided fairings as even on a moderte amount of lean the wind can catch the fairing lifting some of the weight off the bike and off of the tyres making it easier for the tyres to break away especially the rear under power.

Now for a few statistics from Anglesey
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In our final race on sunday the one in where the Red Flag was shown following Matt's crash the fastest lap was set by Matt at 2m 09s some 23s slower than his recorded best dry lap of the weekend.
The following race in simialr conditions had Craig out on his 996 using wets and warmers his best lap was a 2m 12s lap some 29s slower than his best recoreded dry lap of the weekend.

As the rebuild of my 600SS engine came to a halt earlier due to lack of O-rings to go between the barrells and the crankcases I thought I would have a look at some of the results from Anglesey.

Not yet complete as I haven't checked all the races for the conditions they were held in. And as with statistics they don't paint the whole picture, for example in the final DD race although 18% didn't get to the red flag only Matt was a faller.
But by far our worst race as afr as non finishers goes was the original running of race 1 in the dry. Also note DD had a higher number of entrants to start with so provides a higher chance of producing non finishers.
Worst statisic of the day was the Michelin Power cup 1000 with less than 2/3rds of the field finishing and on the whole we faired better than the Michelin power cup 600 riders over the 3 races and were on Par with the grid Craig was on


Desmo Due (started with a grid of 30)

race 1 - dry almost 77% of the starting grid survived
race 1 - (The rerun) Wet 92% of the starting grid finished
race 2 - Damp - 88% Finished
race 3 - Wet almost 82% of the starters were classed as runners at the Red Flag
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Superbike/Supercup/Class1C/etc (started with a grid of 12)

Race 1 - Dry 75% of the starters finished
Race 2 - Dry(ish) almost 82% finished
Race 3 - Wet 91% finished
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Michelin Power Cup 600 (started with a grid of 22)

Race 1 - 77% finished
Race 2 - 76% finished
Race 3 - Wet 81% finished
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Michelin Power cup 1000 (started with a grid of 10)

Race 1 - 100% finished
Race 2 - 89% finished
Race 3 - Wet 62.5% finished

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Moto Grande 600 (started with a grid of 24)

Race 1 - 84% finished
Race 2 - 91% finished
Race 3 - 84% finished
Race 4 - 94% finished
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Moto Grande 1000 (started with a grid of 24)

Race 1 - 87% finished
Race 2 - 81% finished
Race 3 - 95% finished
Race 4 - 94% finished

[Gbyte666]

Intresting stats.
Just shows it's near enough the same for all classes dry/wet.

Craig