thanks for the help everyone!
marchesini, i saw your post on UKMOC and perhaps its not quite what i want? good luck with your deal!
thanks for pics KeefyB they are useful, bike i was looking at is deff not an s4r and although imacc/ loadsa cacrbon and quite georgeous and only 750 miles its overpriced, so ive bought something else for a while insted.
thanks everyone for being so helpful