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[skidlids]

Originally Posted by hor5net

Seems a bit silly. If you start a race and dont finish it regardless of reason it should be a DNF

Restarting a race after an incident is not a fresh new race and should really be done in the running order at the time of the red flag.

If 2 people crash out without a red flag then 5 laps later out comes the red flag those 2 people should not be allowed to start again and should get a DNF. With last year's rule interpretation they would get a DNS which is wrong.

All under the ACU rules and what the Clerk of the Course decides. Nothing to do with Desmo Due rules
If the grid is reformed and the riders start from their original positions it is deemed to be a re run of the race and not a continuation, so what has gone before is null and void.
I can't recall a DD or other club race that I have been at been run in two parts where we form up on the grid in new positions corresponding to where we crossed the line

As this would mean we would have to leave the track, the first part be called and standings (taken back a lap)at the time of a Red flag published, then there should be a half hour for anybody to protest those standings (may have been passed under a yellow flag or someone missed a chicane at somewhere like Oulton and gained an advantage)
Then when that period has expired the race can be run providing it wasn't the last or next to last race of the day then it may just be canceled and half points awarded for the first part

[hor5net]

Fair enough.

Just out of interest, would that mean if you missed the start first time you could be in the next start?

[skidlids]

Originally Posted by hor5net

Fair enough.

Just out of interest, would that mean if you missed the start first time you could be in the next start?

Yes
Although I have noticed Hottrax seem to alter the rules to suit themselves at times as the ACU refers to the amount of laps completed and remaining laps left in the race for the decision about a rerun or continuation to be made.

[badgerpilot]

As much as it pains me, I agree with Blommers.

If your name is on the grid list and you don't make the start then you're a DNS, if you make the grid but not the chequered flag then you're a DNF.

Regarding starts and re-starts then it's CofC that decides if and where you can join the race or not at all.

Best 26 finishes gets my vote with a max of 3 DNFs and as many DNSs as you want.

[skidlids]

Originally Posted by badgerpilot

If your name is on the grid list and you don't make the start then you're a DNS, if you make the grid but not the chequered flag then you're a DNF.

Not our call
We race under a ACU permit at each meeting allowed to do so by our ACU licence, therefore we are subject to the ACU rules.
Just have to hope things don't transpire to often and when they do the CofC gets it right

[badgerpilot]

We just gotta go with CofC's call on those matters then.

Can we do a poll to accept or decline 26 from 33 races scores to count with a maximum of 3 DNFs and no limit of DNSs?

I propose it.

Give it 2 weeks so people can cast their vote.

[milesaway]

my brain hurts now

[skidlids]

Originally Posted by badgerpilot

Can we do a poll to accept or decline 26 from 33 races scores to count with a maximum of 3 DNFs and no limit of DNSs?

I propose it.

Give it 2 weeks so people can cast their vote.

And what would the other voting options be, as if it's declined then another option will have to go through the same process

All races score just a matter of how many count to a individuals championship total
33 from 33
29 from 33
26 from 33
23 from 33

Drop Cadwell in the Summer as point scoring
29 from 29
26 from 29
23 from 29

Drop either Brands or Mallory as point scoring due to time of year (Ideally Mallory as Paddock facilities are rubbish)
Or Drop Knockhill as point scoring as it costs a lot for many to get there.
30 from 30
27 from 30
24 from 30

Drop Brands and Mallory as point scoring as weather is usually rubbish in March and October)
27 from 27
25 from 27
24 from 27

Also need to sort out who can vote, how do we ensure it's only those that are interested in racing in DD in 2015 and does someone who maybe only does 1 round a year (I can name several from 2014) have the same say as someone that will do 8, 9, 10 or 11 meetings
Often people do whats best for themselves and not whats best for the series and future entrants