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[Rod]

Originally Posted by Monty

I'm ahead of you there mate, there is a cunning plan forming involving the engine and front end of an S4RS being grafted onto my YELLOW ST4S. It should just bolt straight in what with the S4RS chassis being basically an ST4S one anyway. I rode Ducati UK's S4RS demonstrator at the trackday and it is awesome-loads of torque and a totally linear and manic top end-perfect 'sports touring' engine, and the Ohlins forks with radial brakes are just the icing on the cake.

John

Monty you can buy my S4RS if you like as if the new 1098 is all we hope for, then I will be selling the Monster before the year is out.

[Rod]

Anyone checked out the thread on Speedzilla.com reference the 1098. Interesting shots of the test mule (no don't worry not the Mugello shots AGAIN !!) but one of the new engine (apparently). Check out the revised rear cylinder head. Here is the link.

http://www.speedzilla.com/forums/sho...1&page=4&pp=10

[Athelstan]

Originally Posted by Monty

I'm ahead of you there mate, there is a cunning plan forming involving the engine and front end of an S4RS being grafted onto my YELLOW ST4S. It should just bolt straight in what with the S4RS chassis being basically an ST4S one anyway. I rode Ducati UK's S4RS demonstrator at the trackday and it is awesome-loads of torque and a totally linear and manic top end-perfect 'sports touring' engine, and the Ohlins forks with radial brakes are just the icing on the cake.

John

Monty - I like the sound of that (saw an S4RS at Nellies when I popped in on my last UK trip - he raved over it) if / when you have done I'd welcome a picture or two and then I may join your school of design engineering. But where on earth do you get hold of an S4RS engine n Front End at this early stage of the products life?*? Good luck with the project.

[Jools]

Originally Posted by Monty

I'm ahead of you there mate, there is a cunning plan forming involving the engine and front end of an S4RS being grafted onto my YELLOW ST4S. It should just bolt straight in what with the S4RS chassis being basically an ST4S one anyway. I rode Ducati UK's S4RS demonstrator at the trackday and it is awesome-loads of torque and a totally linear and manic top end-perfect 'sports touring' engine, and the Ohlins forks with radial brakes are just the icing on the cake.

John

You gonna change the discs along with the calipers

Actually, not a bad idea. I worked out a while back that the single sided swinger on an S2R, S4R or S4RS is not like the 916 swinger because it pivots on the crankcases just like the double siders instead of the frame like the 916.

That means that anything on a Monster of this type should just drop straight into an ST. Engine, swingarm or both

[andyb]

I must admit i would struggle to sell my bike, if thats what i wanted!..........Hows your sale coming on of that classic Hodgson rep .......is it three times youve tried or four?

You wanna put it in a shop window,.....thats apparantly where everyone looks!

[Athelstan]

Originally Posted by Jools

You gonna change the discs along with the calipers

Actually, not a bad idea. I worked out a while back that the single sided swinger on an S2R, S4R or S4RS is not like the 916 swinger because it pivots on the crankcases just like the double siders instead of the frame like the 916.

That means that anything on a Monster of this type should just drop straight into an ST. Engine, swingarm or both

A single sided swingarm on an ST - this project is decidedly tasty - think I need to go out an buy another ST4s as the "mule" (leaving my original 2001 ST4s intact).

BUT: What do we do about the top half of the ST fairing - my 2001 is just bland and with a useless headlight?

(I've just read a review on a head-to-head ST3sABS v WondaVFR v Trumpet Sprint ST and the beam quality results for the latest Duc headlamp unit were rubbish still - Trumpet first by a mile with excellent quality light/beam spread up to 50mtrs, Wonda second down to 30mtrs, Duc a very sad third at 17mtrs, beyond that you be foolish to ride at night at a speed that you couldn't safely stop within those 17mtrs!! - the pictures are frightening!) (When I have time I may post a resumé of the German Mag "Tourenfahrer" report on the ST Forum.

[andyb]

Originally Posted by antonye

Surely not?!? How can it outclass the world beating, sales sensation that was the 999R?!?!

Actually, it sounds pretty good and if it's like the 'sedici then I might have to postpone the Aston Martin for another year...

bring whatever you can get yer hands on.....and all that racing experience...................ill show you what a sensation it can be!

[VanDaMauler]

Originally Posted by andyb

ill show you what a sensation it can be!

Yeah right!!!!


I`m excited abot the new bike...

If it looks like the GP bike, has a single sided swingarm and the base model outperforms the 999R....

Looks like the 996S Hodgy is gonna get replaced by a new S model.

[twpd]

Originally Posted by VanDaMauler

Yeah right!!!!


I`m excited abot the new bike...

If it looks like the GP bike, has a single sided swingarm and the base model outperforms the 999R....

Looks like the 996S Hodgy is gonna get replaced by a new S model.

Of course... you'll be able to exploit the extra performance

[twpd]

I will believe it when I see it. If there is indeed a whole new bike then its tantamount to admission that the 999 series was a failure for the cimpany as a whole. After all the 916 series (inc variants) basically lasted 10 years.

Let's hope there' some improvement in running costs otherwise they still won't tempt this Ducati fan back into the purchasing fold.