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[TP]

And if you had 16.5in carbon dymags running the latest in rubber porn ...



WOOHOO!!!

[skidlids]

Originally Posted by TP

Skids, I reckon you've got the makings of the ultimate Thunderbike's racebike there. Get that R engine in one and get it out there!

I even have most of the 748RS bits from my 998Hybrid conversion, but i'm not sure carbon Fibre front ECU /fairing Mounts and CF battery trays would help the situation with 748R power, you'd probbaly need to be adding weight

[Scooter916]

So could i Paint 748 on the side of the 998 and get away with it.....Thought not DOH

[twpd]

Originally Posted by skidlids

I even have most of the 748RS bits from my 998Hybrid conversion, but i'm not sure carbon Fibre front ECU /fairing Mounts and CF battery trays would help the situation with 748R power, you'd probbaly need to be adding weight

Indeed. In fact - I see the best option being a Bip. Getting an R and then having to add weight to it is plain silly. A Bip with no tuning, just a lightened flywheel and clutch together with remapping and the cams dialled in would be an excellent starting point.

I still think it's a bad move though. I hope I am proved wrong.

[dickieducati]

i know you said 748's are allowed but are 749's too.


i guess the clues in the question?

[twpd]

No they aren't. Can't think why really.

748's have always had a bad time of it in the UK when it comes to racing - they were banned for years when the 748SP trounced competition back in the mid-90's and only recently became eligible again when they were relatively obsolete. IIRC an obscure ruling prevented the 748 from having its inlets opened up but, Jap 4's were allowed this. Overnight it made the 748 obsolete because it limited the power whilst the 4's went on to make more.

[twpd]

Originally Posted by TP

I reckon a light 1000SS would be a match, absolutely. It would be a hell of a lot more interesting too. Especially with a 1080 kit in it! It would make more torque than the 800/748 and make tuning a lot more flexible than the 800 engine. And if you started looking at reducing reciprocating mass weight ...

But, the 748 is a much cheaper option because of the price of buying a 1000SS (circa £5k, unless you luck out - I have no luck) and getting it tuned. There's more spares available for 748's and as variants of that shape have been racing for a number of years it's just a lot easier to keep it running etc. IMO.

I think you are right and for this reason no-one will bother with a 1000ss or an 800ss now. With the 748 you can get bang on the power:weight ratio without having to spend money basically - everybody else would be playing catch-up.

I can make my 800 competitive - at a cost. I wouldn't need to spend money on much tuning - as you intimate it would be reducing reciprocating weight which has many advantages...but it costs shed loads.

[antonye]

Originally Posted by twpd

I think you are right and for this reason no-one will bother with a 1000ss or an 800ss now. With the 748 you can get bang on the power:weight ratio without having to spend money basically - everybody else would be playing catch-up.

I can make my 800 competitive - at a cost. I wouldn't need to spend money on much tuning - as you intimate it would be reducing reciprocating weight which has many advantages...but it costs shed loads.

But isn't this true of any racing series, with the exception of one-make series?

There will always be one model which has an advantage over the others as a starting point, purely because it is more powerful/lighter/better equipped/etc

[skidlids]

So any body want to buy a 748Bip in road trim, scruffy bodywork and a set of carbon cans £2400 or £2200 without any lights or bodywork apart from the tank.

Rearsets and lightweight clutch basket available at extra cost

Ideal Thunderbike or trackday bike

[phil_h]

Originally Posted by skidlids

So any body want to buy a 748Bip in road trim, scruffy bodywork and a set of carbon cans £2400 or £2200 without any lights or bodywork apart from the tank.

Rearsets and lightweight clutch basket available at extra cost

Ideal Thunderbike or trackday bike

Hmmmm .. mm ... mmm ... would you be interested to px one for a nice SPS kev ?