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[Monty]

Originally posted by antonye
Might be the reason why it's just a procession these days - wasn't MotoGP going the same way when it was 500cc 2-strokes?

Just a couple of thoughts...

The main problem with the 500 strokers is that there was/are only about 6-8 people in the world who can ride one properly-they are evil! The 990 MotoGP diesels are MUCH easier to ride-for now. My main concern is that they are reducing the capacity to 800cc-to reduce the power and speed-but the engineers will still get about 250 bhp out of them and they will end up as evil rev boxes-rather like the 500cc strokers they replaced.
I watched the F1 race on Sunday-first time for years-it'll be years before I bother again............

John

[andyb]

I guess my point is, i had to be there! I couldnt for the life of me work out why the people attending were so enthusiastic to be there ( after the expense of getting in!!!)

I just couldnt find it remotely interesting, and i ought to really, because i can get excited about all things technical.

[antonye]

Originally posted by andyb
I guess my point is, i had to be there! I couldnt for the life of me work out why the people attending were so enthusiastic to be there ( after the expense of getting in!!!)

They probably think the same of us going to the bike racing!

[andyb]

Originally posted by antonye

They probably think the same of us going to the bike racing!

Yeah but no but....i dont think they have an arguement for that at the moment. The two are completely different.
I have to say the majority of them looked a completely different animal to your motorcyclist....
the words square and anorak spring to mind...... none of them here...........

[Martini]

They should modify the cars to reduce grip.... removing two wheels should do it!

[Ray]

There is another type of F1................................................ ....

F1 stock cars. The fastest men start at the back, BIG V8s, power far exceeds grip, Huge wings that make no difference, if someone doesn't get out yer way you offer assistance in the form of a tap on the rear bumper!

Perhaps Bernie and the boys could learn something from the short oval racers??


The easy way to sort motoGP is to limit the RPM. Don't know why its never been taken up by bike racing as a way of leveling performance?? any techies know why??

Ray

[rcgbob44]

Ray
Why level performance, everything becomes more "samey"

[Ray]

Level performance is maybe the wrong way of saying reducing costs, i.e. big R&D budget and expensive tech. doesn't mean you buy results.

If you limit the revs on the current engines wouldn't you reduce the speed for the cost of a limiter system rather than having to design a whole new 800cc engine?

"Samey" bike engine performance is no bad thing? There are plenty of other things to spend cash on, the chasis, tyre development, and more importantly the best rider!

Having said that, at the top level it's not always about cash it's about the whole package unless you have a specific mega advantage in any one area.

The reason for going 800cc is to reduce power/speed. Rev limiter does that for the fraction of the cost. Sure engine development will still go on but be focussed on making the best usable power up to what ever the rev limit is.

Ray.