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Old 01-Oct-2009, 16:01
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Well neither can I. I spoke to the guy that was MD of Pirelli up to last year, and is now a Director of Competition Logistics, who provide Pirelli's racing service at BSB.....who I have known a number of years, plus Pirelli's own technical wizard in Germany.....I wont use the flowery language that the CompLog guy used, but basically, it was along the lines of

" Dont be stupid David, firstly, we would never recommend a ZR tyre then change our minds and say it is unsuitable.....in favour of an H rated tyre especially.....what idiot told you that ? "

And much the same was said from Germany too, and both denied that they would issue such utterences in writing anyway. Has anyone actually seen these letters?


30th September 1938, Munich:

"This morning I had another talk with the German Chancellor, Herr Hitler, and here is the paper which bears his name upon it as well as mine (waves paper to the crowd - receiving loud cheers and "Hear Hears"). Some of you, perhaps, have already heard what it contains but I would just like to read it to you........................."

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Old 01-Oct-2009, 21:19
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Call them yourself and ask Mark. I have nothing to hide and no axe to grind...and this has bugger all to do with tyres.....this is to do with an MT that bangs on ad nauseum about keeping costs down, and then takes the **** out of any suggestion to change to achieve PRECISELY what they keep banging on about. Its ok to spend £1000 on a rear shock, but you have to keep the std forks.....and use crappy road tyres claiming that the suppliers tell you they are the ones to use and when the people that have to buy them and use them ask to see this documentation, fail to produce it and go all quiet. I'm bloody glad I'm not riding in DD next year. Much as I love the paddock and everyone in it, the politics and organisational claptrap behind it is just complete ********. And I may be the only one to stick my neck on the block but there are a host of others that feel exactly the same way, so dont any of you kid yourselves that it's only me.
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Old 01-Oct-2009, 22:36
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Can I make a suggestion here?

Anyone that wants to run different tyres to the current ones, simply has to do ONE thing:

Get a signed letter from the manufacturer stating that their tyres are suitable to use in racing, in both wet and dry weather, for the weight and power made by both classes of bikes.

Once you've got that letter, please come back and post up a copy as it will help us to decide which tyres are suitable for use and those which can be discounted. Until this happens, can I politely suggest that you all STFU about tyres? Kthxby.


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Old 01-Oct-2009, 22:59
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Ah, the letter, that must be similar to the one the powers that be consistantly cant/wont/refuse to make available to those that ride in DD mustnt it?
Well thats not a prob, I could have that letter available to compare with the one that Pirelli sent too........But you miss the point Antonye....this is NOT about tyres alone.........or do you assume what a post says rather than actually reading it?
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Old 02-Oct-2009, 10:07
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Ah, the letter, that must be similar to the one the powers that be consistantly cant/wont/refuse to make available to those that ride in DD mustnt it?

I've never been to Africa, but a lot of people tell me it's there and so I believe them...

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Well thats not a prob, I could have that letter available to compare with the one that Pirelli sent too........But you miss the point Antonye....this is NOT about tyres alone.........or do you assume what a post says rather than actually reading it?

So what else is it about? Please feel free to make a list of points that you would like to see addressed and I shall respond to those too, but personally I was responding to your query about the letter of conformance from Pirelli.


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Ah, the letter, that must be similar to the one the powers that be consistantly cant/wont/refuse to make available to those that ride in DD mustnt it?
Well thats not a prob, I could have that letter available to compare with the one that Pirelli sent too........But you miss the point Antonye....this is NOT about tyres alone.........or do you assume what a post says rather than actually reading it?


Rules for DD are set by those who spend THEIR time constructively organising it, not whinging.
As Mr Couchie and Mr Woods appear to say we all have 2 choices.
If the tyres chosen for the series are not to your liking I'm sure another club can accommodate you!
If you don't like Marmite don't whine about on the Marmite forum.
Tell some one who gives a flying ####. Try peanut butter.

Those in the DD paddock are having fun hence the grids in difficult times are still some of the biggest in New Era.
Why do some people seem to want to try to **** things up by posting on a forum. Forums don't have any power to do anything.

Broke my elbow and coc6 at Pembrey on Sunday, the drugs and cider have taken their toll tonight.
Wanna rip someones arms off and beat them to death with the soggy ends.!!!
So if this offends...... #### off.

I'll be back next year if you'll have me, cos its fun and, for the most part, with pretty good folk.
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Old 03-Oct-2009, 01:36
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I retract my earlier post, Dave is now the Voice of Reason!

GWS fella.


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Forums don't have any power to do anything.

Oh yes they DO!
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Oh yes they DO!

Thank God, they don't

GWS Dave, and good post btw.
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