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[smilo006]

it was there seemed to be a significant amount of publicity middle last year and then little else. However it seems that it was shown to annual dealer meeting this year.

[antonye]

Originally Posted by smilo006

it was there seemed to be a significant amount of publicity middle last year and then little else. However it seems that it was shown to annual dealer meeting this year.

It's interesting to compare with how the 1098 was released to the public - virtually no spy shots whatsoever and then suddenly it was all over the place; on their website, press releases and even in Bike magazine!

But similarly, the 1098 keeps a lot of the heritage of the previous line - belt driven cams, 90deg L-twin forward facing engine, trellis frame, dry clutch...

When you look at all the bikes Ducati have made in the last 10-15 years, they're all evolutions of the current design, even if they don't look like traditional Ducatis: Hypermotard, Multistrada 1200, Diavel ... all have the same recognisable Ducati traits.

I'm just a bit sceptical that there will be such radical changes in the essence of what we consider to be a modern sports Ducati.

[John W]

I was at a presentation a week or two back where a member of the Ducati race team gave an overview of all this technology. He also talked about the problem witrh tyre to front head clearance.

the current GP bikes no longer use a trellis front part to the frame, and the entire seat unit is carbon fibre simply bolted to the back of the engine.
The swinging arm mounts directly to it too, so consequently the engine is a stressed member.

There is aome really clever stuff going on with these bikes. Because they now spend so much time on thier sides the suspension is also on its side, so engineers are designing swinging arm and headstocks to be flexible in one direction but rigid in the other, and with varying stiffness depending on which track your at

What that article is saying to me is simply some of this technology is going to make its way to the production bikes. That doesn't sound too out of the ordinary.
What is though is the obvious cost of all these bits, plus the ability for other manufacturers to have a good old look over all that they (Ducati racing) are currently doing.
Although I am not sure whether this article is correct, I would expect some of this lot to come close to production some time in the not too distant future.

[MJS]

Does developing a road bike from motoGP technology lead to an eventual return to WSB with a more up-to-date and competitive bike?

Surely the lessons learnt from the motoGP project have to filter through to road bike development eventually?

Martin

[antonye]

Originally Posted by MJS

Does developing a road bike from motoGP technology lead to an eventual return to WSB with a more up-to-date and competitive bike?

Surely the lessons learnt from the motoGP project have to filter through to road bike development eventually?

Let's hope that whatever they do sees a return to WSB!

[smilo006]

Down at Motoraaapido today looking at 1198 - 1098's. trying to find out about the new 2012 Superbike, to see when used prices for the 1198 will fall. It will be out, it will be expensive, oversquare, mono ck chassis, gear driven cams. Different engine position. Sounds like a technically simpler Desmosidici with a v twin.
Found this when looking for pictures:

DUCATI C12-R SUPERBIKE CONCEPT Anthony Colard’s

The architecture of the NEW DUCATI C12-R SUPERBIKE CONCEPT has taken several iterations, and absolutely started activity out as the C11-R. The Colard C11-R’s best apparent aberration to its almsman is the GP-style bankrupt the exits both in the lower fairing, and beneath the appendage section. Colard has replaced this bureaucracy in the C12-R with a added acceptable Ducati-esque underseat adjustment with dual-cans.

Accenting both designs are added circuitous and vented anatomy panels. Underneath it all you can see afflatus from the 1098, but Colard’s thoughts assume to be added complex, than the simple Ducati lines. The affect on us is that this looks like an about added complete appearance than the original, and thankfully doesn’t booty the archetypal Ducati curve too far, and into the branch of clutter.

Hopping anon to cede a adobe archetypal of the C12-R, Collard’s final aim is to actualize a bound run of his creations. While he doesn’t appetite to adduce exact achievement specs yet, a 200hp motor isn’t out of the equation. The French artist is abiding of one thing, it will be faster and lighter than the accepted 1198.

The project’s ambition amount is €25,000 for a completed bike, which isn’t that abundant added big-ticket than a abject Ducati 1198 (in Europe at least), but Colard wants to accept a €4,000 kit (fairings and bankrupt only) accessible for accepted 1098/1198 owners to acquirement and transform their machine.

Either this is badly translated or from a parallel universe. Made me laugh.

Also tried a multistrada today. What a great bike. Much better than I thought it would be. Damn fast considering. Little disappointed with 1198, though it did not have an open clutch cover or open cans. Gear change was like jelly, engine powerful but lacks sort of Ducati ooomph. Seat better but still damn hard on the forearms. Is it me or is it that it does not feel taute. More like a Jap bike than a Ducati. It is such a shame Tambo did not stay and create the MV around a desmo v twin. Cleverly re establishes the lineage from the 916 thru the 999 to the modern era though, after the disconnection of the 999.

[antonye]

I know that Tim has been over to the factory this week previewing the new model(s) that will be released soon but doubt we'll get much more info from him!