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Old 26-Sep-2011, 23:38   #1
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Yep why not water down what we already have so that no clubs would be interested in running DD or if they did they would have us on the grid with other classes.
Trudi and myself received a few phone calls this year from Hottrax as they were concerned about the level of entries.

Now if someone is suggesting a seperate grid for 135 bhp maximum Ducatis you would be needing to find in the region of 25 entrants for all meetings for a club to entertain a seperate grid, otherwise you may as well enter the MaxiTwins and run in with the Motogrande 1000s at Hottrax or enter SoT with the likes of NG where you would be shareing a grid with the likes of 1098/1198s, Triumph 675s RC8s etc.

Last time I was racing SoT at club level the two front runners both had Ex BSB 996RS engines in their bikes, one of which was a complete EX BSB bike, no way could most of us racing Ducatis compete without spending a small fortune, I know of one rider who tried and his spend for the year was £35k.

Even with certain engine rules in place if the guy out front has the latest Ohlins SBK Gas forks with Brembo Monoblock Calipers, HPK discs, Mag Wheels, Mag arms, Mag Wide-track yokes, MF3 or Nemesis type ECUs, new tyres every race etc etc, then others will need to either head down the same route or resign themselves to not being able to compete on level terms.

Something that DD has been trying to achieve by offering a Level playing field at relatively modest costs.

And if in the proposed class you can clear off into the distance on a standard 916 then you really should be racing in a more serious class


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Old 26-Sep-2011, 23:50   #2
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Just checked the calendar - the timing is spot on: 2 weeks after the last round and the winter pantomine starts!
Characters: (in no particular order)

Keen rider type with new idea
Machiavellian behind the scenes string-pulling villain
Disgruntled has-been with chip on shoulder
Open-minded voice of reason slowly being ground down to cynical indifference
"Q"-type techie who is always trying new gadgets
Some ugly sisters**

We just need a couple of superstar champions who we can yell "they're all behind you" at and we're there.

The End

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Old 27-Sep-2011, 01:19   #3
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Just checked the calendar - the timing is spot on: 2 weeks after the last round and the winter pantomine starts!
Characters: (in no particular order)

Keen rider type with new idea
Machiavellian behind the scenes string-pulling villain
Disgruntled has-been with chip on shoulder
Open-minded voice of reason slowly being ground down to cynical indifference
"Q"-type techie who is always trying new gadgets
Some ugly sisters**

We just need a couple of superstar champions who we can yell "they're all behind you" at and we're there.

The End

** None of the characters depicted represent any individual person, living dead or on the race committee***




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But you could enter your 888 in Class C


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Old 27-Sep-2011, 10:53   #4
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But you could enter your 888 in Class C

I'd have a job as I sold her on Saturday


But now I have funds for 2012 DD


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Old 27-Sep-2011, 11:09   #5
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But now I have funds for 2012 DD

Brilliant! How many days did you spend retired?


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Old 27-Sep-2011, 21:17   #6
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But now I have funds for 2012 DD



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Old 27-Sep-2011, 07:40   #7
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Originally Posted by paynep
Just checked the calendar - the timing is spot on: 2 weeks after the last round and the winter pantomine starts!
Characters: (in no particular order)

Keen rider type with new idea
Machiavellian behind the scenes string-pulling villain
Disgruntled has-been with chip on shoulder
Open-minded voice of reason slowly being ground down to cynical indifference
"Q"-type techie who is always trying new gadgets
Some ugly sisters**

We just need a couple of superstar champions who we can yell "they're all behind you" at and we're there.

The End

PMSL!!

Brilliant Paul..and just about spot on.

Now I remember why DD struggles. Other clubs look forward with optimism and actively promote the new ideas they have (ThundersportGB even have a video on youtube about golden era) and reap the rewards of entries as a result. We manage to sit here and bicker amongst ourselves whilst putting a cotton wool jacket around what we have to protect it, which only serves to see in diminish while we do nothing about it. Perfect.

It's got nothing to do with diluting classes. A class is seeing a resurgence, which I think is down to more money being available and that's fantastic. Class B is still healthy too. I was heartbroken when I thought that A would go down the pan and thought about coming back to it, but I want a new challenge really. Plus I think people would pay the gate fee just to see me and the pieman try to kill eachother on 998's!!!


Where IS that unicycling clown anyway...this is HIS idea I'm trying to defend!

I think the Maxxis series didn't recieve support for a couple of reasons.

1: I don't think enough people had faith in the tyres.

2: I don't think people thought you were the right person to run it, David. Don't take that as a personal insult, I don't dislike you...I would level the same critisicm at myself when it came to something like that. If I ran it I just wouldn't have any patience with the moaners and would happily stab them on the spot rather than patiently debate their woes. That's why I'm a racer and not a series organiser.


Skids...always the voice of reason. I always take onboard what you say with respect and interest but I wish you could leave out the cynicism. It must get frustrating to have to explain the ins and outs to us morons EVERY year...but try to bear with us.

I'll start a new thread on the series and if we can have positive comments (including critisicms) that not only critisise and support but ALSO look to try and find a solution so we can perhaps get this off the ground.

I'm trying to help create a larger DD class that doesn't go to the extremes of ThundersportGB and hence will remain cheaper as DD has been for years now.

Fank yooooooooooooooooo
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