Ducati Sporting Club UK > General > Idle Chat > new number plates

[Rocker]

How would the charges be calculated.As an old fogey I really don't want to be paying the same as some of you youngsters.At the miment I'm paying approx £200 fully comp on the Multistrada & £94 fully comp on the Deauville. I'm sure the system you suggest would cost me at least that( probabley more) for just third party

[Ray]

Don't bother with a plate AFAIK it's only a £30 fine and no points.

If you get caught too many times you can get done for a more serious offence.

The Halfrauds staff I have dealt with a few times have no idea and I have got plates made on two occasions without the proper paperwork.

The prob now is that yer local hodlum doesn't bother to buy plates they just nick 'em off another vehicle.

That way they stay invisible to speed cameras and other technology the Police are getting more and more reliant on.

Scrap tax discs, put the tax on fuel try dodging road tax then.

As for insurance get the ins. companies to issue a disc rather than a certificate.

Rather than whinge on here about daft laws write to your local MP. They are pretty much duty bound to reply and they need a wake up call in their Ivory towers aftert the latest Junket you have paid for.

Ray

[TP]

Originally posted by Rocker
How would the charges be calculated.As an old fogey I really don't want to be paying the same as some of you youngsters.At the miment I'm paying approx £200 fully comp on the Multistrada & £94 fully comp on the Deauville. I'm sure the system you suggest would cost me at least that( probabley more) for just third party

The system is based on the engine capacity and what state you are in but the government has deregulated it after it's introduction because they were effectively price fixing it.

The system works well and the idea behind the third party insurance is that it follows the registration and becomes a cost viewed in the same way as MOT for a car here - it's an assett sold with the vehicle. You could cash it in but you would effectively be taking your vehicle off the road (SORN style) and it would be less attractive to potential purchasers.

The car you bought to replace it would have insurance as well so it's a roundabout. A good system if you ask me.

[antonye]

Originally posted by Ian
A guy I worked with had his bike number plate cloned which I believe is an enormous problem within the UK, (and the reason why i would never post a picture on this site showing a bike number plate (lets not make it easier than it is for them)). The criminal sees your bike matching the stolen one he has in his lock up and makes up a plate to match your one that he has just seen passing by. It being an actual plate matching the bike description he is less lilkely to be stopped on a suspect check up. Anyway back to the story of the guy i worked with: He was arrested for hit and run and given that it later turned out that the pedistrian was killed and he could not initially remember his whereabouts at the time of the accident he was in serious trouble until he could prove that it was not him. The responsibility was on him to prove that he was his innocent given that the bike involved in the hit and run matched exactly the bike he owned.

This happened to a guy I know about 10 years ago. He bought a car out of one of the boy racer magazines, a really nice black Escort RS Turbo. Lovely it was, only a couple of years old, a few nice mods and was pretty quick.

One morning as he got into his car he was rushed by a dozen policemen, many of them armed, and dragged off to the cells.

It eventually turned out that some robbers up north had copied the plates from the registration shown in the advert and put them on a nicked car which was exactly the same - they then went and did an armed robbery in it!

Suffice to say he had a hard time proving his innocence until his workmates verified that he had been there all day at the time of the robbery.

[Rocker]

so that means as a rider with over 40 years experiance I would be paying the same as someone who passed their test yesterday.I hardly think that is right.I still feel that the need to display an insurance disc would work just as well and still give us the right to shop around.Can't you just imagine Gordon Browns delight if he had the chance to set the insurance rate for every vechile in the country. It would make the fuel tax & council tax seem cheap

[TP]

Originally posted by Rocker
so that means as a rider with over 40 years experiance I would be paying the same as someone who passed their test yesterday.I hardly think that is right.I still feel that the need to display an insurance disc would work just as well and still give us the right to shop around.Can't you just imagine Gordon Browns delight if he had the chance to set the insurance rate for every vechile in the country. It would make the fuel tax & council tax seem cheap

Well, maybe I'm not the best person in the world to explain this but the government doesn't set the price, insurance companies do. The insurance component is quite cheap and you have a choice of insurers.

Interestingly enough, in Aus we have council rates which is similar to council tax here the only difference being who pays it. If you rent a house it is the responsibility of the house owner to pay rates, not the tenant. So I pay council tax for my rented house in Twickenham and council rates for the house I own in Brisbane.

[Rocker]

The insurance rate might be quite cheap in Aus but remember this is rip off Britain. If the government are going to loose the income from road tax they are going to be putting it on something else. I'm still not clear if everybody would pay the same ammount or whether it would vary according to experiance.Personally I still feel the method used in Eire would be much simpler and fairer.

[jim flynn]

This has got to be the most ridiculous idea any of those **** heads has ever came up with. Does it stop someone cloning plates? No it doesn't. Plates that are not road legal can be made up with no ID required. Does the Gatso know that it has taken a picture of a plate 2mm narrower than your legal plate? No it doesn't. Does the eyewitness to the robbery or accident note the size of plate or font? No they don't. Does the law abiding citizen trying to get a number plate get ****ed about by ridiculously stupid, ineffective, poorly thought out legislation that no doubt cost the taxpayer several hundred thousand pounds to have dreamed up, administrated and enforced? Yes they flaming well do! Should the buffoon that came up with this idea be hung drawn and quartered and fed to the pigs? Damn right they should! And before that they should have their number plates nicked when on the start of their caravan holiday 500 miles from home. Scumbags.

Can you get UK legal plates made up without the need for ID? Yes, get them in Northern Ireland or the Isle of Man in person or online.

Yes this subject does annoy me a little.

[deej]

here here

i iknow your feelings all too well

cant argue with the service i got from malplates, delivered in 48hours, yeah it maybe slightly illegal but its a plate

why are those of you who want a legal plate made looking at the i.o.m or n.ireland surely your just as well to take your documents to your local dealer and get it made up

[Rocker]

Originally posted by deej


why are those of you who want a legal plate made looking at the i.o.m or n.ireland surely your just as well to take your documents to your local dealer and get it made up

The inconveniance of having to find the time to get to the dealers